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		<title>By: medium deep &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Babel and Pentecost</title>
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		<dc:creator>medium deep &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Babel and Pentecost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was pleased to see the themes of Babel and Pentecost treated briefly in Social Media’s Tower of Babel. I would tend to agree with the sentiment that &#8220;we are in danger of building a modern Tower [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was pleased to see the themes of Babel and Pentecost treated briefly in Social Media’s Tower of Babel. I would tend to agree with the sentiment that &#8220;we are in danger of building a modern Tower [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VMaryAbraham</title>
		<link>http://aboveandbeyondkm.com/2009/05/social-medias-tower-of-babel.html/comment-page-1#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>VMaryAbraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, along with that improved technology, it would be nice to have some trusted human guides.  After all this is supposed to be &quot;social&quot; computing and we are supposed to be in community with one another.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Wendy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, along with that improved technology, it would be nice to have some trusted human guides.  After all this is supposed to be &#8220;social&#8221; computing and we are supposed to be in community with one another.</p>
<p>Thanks, Wendy.</p>
<p>- Mary</p>
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		<title>By: VMaryAbraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMaryAbraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, along with that improved technology, it would be nice to have some trusted human guides.  After all this is supposed to be &quot;social&quot; computing and we are supposed to be in community with one another.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Wendy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, along with that improved technology, it would be nice to have some trusted human guides.  After all this is supposed to be &#8220;social&#8221; computing and we are supposed to be in community with one another.</p>
<p>Thanks, Wendy.</p>
<p>- Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://aboveandbeyondkm.com/2009/05/social-medias-tower-of-babel.html/comment-page-1#comment-745</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Mary - it&#039;s getting a little difficult to separate signal from noise right now. Hopefully there will be some convergence in the next few years, and &quot;super platforms&quot; , which allow us to filter and manage that flow more precisely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;re right, Mary &#8211; it&#39;s getting a little difficult to separate signal from noise right now. Hopefully there will be some convergence in the next few years, and &#8220;super platforms&#8221; , which allow us to filter and manage that flow more precisely.</p>
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		<title>By: VMaryAbraham</title>
		<link>http://aboveandbeyondkm.com/2009/05/social-medias-tower-of-babel.html/comment-page-1#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>VMaryAbraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much, Christoph.  So, if you&#039;ll permit me to switch metaphors for a moment, we should treat this wide array of information as the abundant buffet it is and focus on teaching ourselves how to eat intelligently?  This may be hard for folks who relish having access to this wealth of information.  We&#039;re all going to have to learn a little restraint or quickly collapse from overload.  Clearly, the onus is on the user to find a system that allows sufficient enjoyment (and nutrition) without running the risk of being overwhelmed.  But I do hope more experienced members of the community step up and provide guidance on what works best.  In this new environment, that experience and advice is priceless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much, Christoph.  So, if you&#39;ll permit me to switch metaphors for a moment, we should treat this wide array of information as the abundant buffet it is and focus on teaching ourselves how to eat intelligently?  This may be hard for folks who relish having access to this wealth of information.  We&#39;re all going to have to learn a little restraint or quickly collapse from overload.  Clearly, the onus is on the user to find a system that allows sufficient enjoyment (and nutrition) without running the risk of being overwhelmed.  But I do hope more experienced members of the community step up and provide guidance on what works best.  In this new environment, that experience and advice is priceless.</p>
<p>- Mary</p>
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		<title>By: VMaryAbraham</title>
		<link>http://aboveandbeyondkm.com/2009/05/social-medias-tower-of-babel.html/comment-page-1#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>VMaryAbraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For reasons I can&#039;t begin to explain, the comment Christoph Schmaltz left on June 1 failed to appear.  So, I&#039;m reproducing it below with my sincere apologies to Christoph (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.twitter.com/christoph%29:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.twitter.com/christoph):&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Nice piece, Mary! I agree that we need to make better use of our networks and &#039;employ&#039; them as human filters. There are some good examples of crowdsourcing and letting interesting content bubble up by passive intervention of people.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At the same time people need to learn the way social tools work and what effect they have. I actually thought I followed a very smart crowd of people until some of them started playing #spymaster on Twitter. And I certainly can&#039;t cope with all the FB application nonsense that I receive in my stream. We need to have better (technology) filters but also &#039;smarter&#039; people ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I absolutely agree with Doug. People overwhelmed by the flow of information think that it works like email - that they need to read everything. In fact, the &#039;flow&#039; is similar to the daily newspaper. You never know what to read tomorrow and it&#039;s hardly ever the case that you need the information you read right away. However, it distributes information widely (within an org) and helps you keeping up to date with developments. That&#039;s very different to an encyclopedia where you want to have an answer to your question right away.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For reasons I can&#39;t begin to explain, the comment Christoph Schmaltz left on June 1 failed to appear.  So, I&#39;m reproducing it below with my sincere apologies to Christoph (<a href="http://www.twitter.com/christoph%29:" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.twitter.com/christoph)" rel="nofollow">http://www.twitter.com/christoph)</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;Nice piece, Mary! I agree that we need to make better use of our networks and &#39;employ&#39; them as human filters. There are some good examples of crowdsourcing and letting interesting content bubble up by passive intervention of people.</p>
<p>At the same time people need to learn the way social tools work and what effect they have. I actually thought I followed a very smart crowd of people until some of them started playing #spymaster on Twitter. And I certainly can&#39;t cope with all the FB application nonsense that I receive in my stream. We need to have better (technology) filters but also &#39;smarter&#39; people <img src='http://aboveandbeyondkm.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, I absolutely agree with Doug. People overwhelmed by the flow of information think that it works like email &#8211; that they need to read everything. In fact, the &#39;flow&#39; is similar to the daily newspaper. You never know what to read tomorrow and it&#39;s hardly ever the case that you need the information you read right away. However, it distributes information widely (within an org) and helps you keeping up to date with developments. That&#39;s very different to an encyclopedia where you want to have an answer to your question right away.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -

This notion of neutral filters will require more thought and work, at least on my part.  In the meantime, I&#039;d offer the following suggestion regarding your valid concern about groupthink:  perhaps the key to avoiding groupthink is to make deliberate efforts to remain open to serendipity.  Perhaps that means checking regularly to see what topics are trending in various social networks.  Perhaps it means occasionally taking a meandering path as you follow one interesting link to another.  And, it undoubtedly means staying connected with at least a few people who have demonstrated that they have curious minds and catholic tastes.

- Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark -</p>
<p>This notion of neutral filters will require more thought and work, at least on my part.  In the meantime, I&#8217;d offer the following suggestion regarding your valid concern about groupthink:  perhaps the key to avoiding groupthink is to make deliberate efforts to remain open to serendipity.  Perhaps that means checking regularly to see what topics are trending in various social networks.  Perhaps it means occasionally taking a meandering path as you follow one interesting link to another.  And, it undoubtedly means staying connected with at least a few people who have demonstrated that they have curious minds and catholic tastes.</p>
<p>- Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gould</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Gould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You are right to emphasise neutrality. One of the important risks in asessing socially-driven signals is that groupthink develops extremely quickly, and powerfully. I see this sometimes in our own groups. We tend to follow the same people on Twitter, read similar blogs, and so on. (The &#039;we&#039; here is universal, not just personal.) As a result, we often need someone to come from outside the circle to challenge the group view. &quot;Tastes and circumstances&quot; change, and people may not realise that they have changed (even their own) until they are shown a different view that is equally, or more, acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary,</p>
<p>You are right to emphasise neutrality. One of the important risks in asessing socially-driven signals is that groupthink develops extremely quickly, and powerfully. I see this sometimes in our own groups. We tend to follow the same people on Twitter, read similar blogs, and so on. (The &#39;we&#39; here is universal, not just personal.) As a result, we often need someone to come from outside the circle to challenge the group view. &#8220;Tastes and circumstances&#8221; change, and people may not realise that they have changed (even their own) until they are shown a different view that is equally, or more, acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Abraham</title>
		<link>http://aboveandbeyondkm.com/2009/05/social-medias-tower-of-babel.html/comment-page-1#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much, Christoph.  So, if you&#039;ll permit me to switch metaphors for a moment, we should treat this wide array of information as the abundant buffet it is and focus on teaching ourselves how to eat intelligently?  This may be hard for folks who relish having access to this wealth of information.  We&#039;re all going to have to learn a little restraint or quickly collapse from overload.  Clearly, the onus is on the user to find a system that allows sufficient enjoyment (and nutrition) without running the risk of being overwhelmed.  But I do hope more experienced members of the community step up and provide guidance on what works best.  In this new environment, that experience and advice is priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much, Christoph.  So, if you&#8217;ll permit me to switch metaphors for a moment, we should treat this wide array of information as the abundant buffet it is and focus on teaching ourselves how to eat intelligently?  This may be hard for folks who relish having access to this wealth of information.  We&#8217;re all going to have to learn a little restraint or quickly collapse from overload.  Clearly, the onus is on the user to find a system that allows sufficient enjoyment (and nutrition) without running the risk of being overwhelmed.  But I do hope more experienced members of the community step up and provide guidance on what works best.  In this new environment, that experience and advice is priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: VMaryAbraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>VMaryAbraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug and Mark - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It appears that we have consensus (at least among the three of us, Clay Shirky and Dave Weinberger) on the proposition that the solution to the Tower of Babel problem is not to restrict the flow of information, but rather to improve our filters.  The point I tried to make in my post was that it may well take a community effort to help each other find effective ways of filtering this endless torrent of information.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree with Mark that one person&#039;s noise may be another person&#039;s signal.  Nonetheless, I wonder if there aren&#039;t some neutral filtering techniques that allow each person to find what suits their tastes and circumstances in an efficient and effective manner?  Perhaps this is another area in which the collective wisdom of the social commuting community can help identify and teach those techniques.  And perhaps, as Nick notes, this identifying and teaching role is tailor-made for KM.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;- Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug and Mark &#8211; </p>
<p>It appears that we have consensus (at least among the three of us, Clay Shirky and Dave Weinberger) on the proposition that the solution to the Tower of Babel problem is not to restrict the flow of information, but rather to improve our filters.  The point I tried to make in my post was that it may well take a community effort to help each other find effective ways of filtering this endless torrent of information.  </p>
<p>I agree with Mark that one person&#39;s noise may be another person&#39;s signal.  Nonetheless, I wonder if there aren&#39;t some neutral filtering techniques that allow each person to find what suits their tastes and circumstances in an efficient and effective manner?  Perhaps this is another area in which the collective wisdom of the social commuting community can help identify and teach those techniques.  And perhaps, as Nick notes, this identifying and teaching role is tailor-made for KM.</p>
<p>- Mary</p>
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